Whiplash

Whiplash

Blu-ray Disc - 2015
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Andrew Neyman is an ambitious young jazz drummer, single-minded in his pursuit to rise to the top of his elite east coast music conservatory. Plagued by the failed writing career of his father, Andrew hungers day and night to become one of the greats. Terence Fletcher, an instructor equally known for his teaching talents as for his terrifying methods, leads the top jazz ensemble in the school. Fletcher discovers Andrew and transfers the aspiring drummer into his band.
Publisher: [S.l.] : Sony, [2015]
Characteristics: 1 videodisc (105 minutes) : sound, color ; 4 3/4 in
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miniduf
Oct 06, 2016

One of the best movies I have ever seen with strong lead performances. Gripping and intense

LoganLib_Bailey Jul 04, 2016

A gripping story about how far a young man is willing to go for his dream.

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bradenbost
May 24, 2016

As a movie, as a story, as an experience, and as a display of acting performances, this film is FANTASTIC. Gripping, moving, and tragic. It's stuck with me for days.

As a representation of music (both of jazz, and in general) and learning music and being a musician, it's pretty poor. That wasn't the goal of the writer, director, and cast, to be fair, but it still gets frustrating or silly if you think too hard about it: why doesn't Andrew ever play with anyone besides this one ensemble? Why is it that all he does is play and listen to jazz? How is it he's as advanced as he's supposed to be but doesn't know how to properly hold sticks so his hands don't bleed? What is Fletcher teaching these students other than drill-sergeant-esque fear? What does Fletcher want out of Andrew besides *faster playing* and *exact tempo*? Why does everyone in this movie think that great music careers are made via singular moments and performances? Why would anyone of Andrew's supposed caliber suppose failure under Fletcher translates to failure as a musician?

Again, as a film, this movie deserves all the praise it received, but don't think that it represents music and musicianship in any proper way.

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rslade
May 23, 2016

Great acting at the service of a very flawed premise. OK, that's one way to teach (or conduct), and it works well with a select group of driven geniuses, and I take it that we are to assume that an understanding is reached. But a real teacher (or conductor) has other batons in his bag. (And where, pray tell, is the administration in all of this? That doesn't automatically trigger an investigation into a trip that involves a car accident?)

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lapollon
May 11, 2016

As a straight ahead drama, the film is pretty good. It's exciting, it gets you involved emotionally, and has an interesting setting. But, as a musician who studies Jazz, I felt insulted by this movie. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jazz and its tradition. I feel that it's a huge misinterpretation on what it means to be a musician and how to become a great one, and it is a bit dangerous for young musicians (especially), who after seeing this film may think that emulating the characters from this film is the way they should act/practice/and just exist as a human being. And for drummers especially, the technique displayed looks extremely uncomfortable and would be a great way to hurt yourself physically. It's definitely not something you would want to copy.

Again... As a straight ahead film, it's very dramatic, stirs your feelings, and keeps you engaged. But when it comes to Jazz, and I was actually looking forward to this movie because of my interest in Jazz, I feel this film doesn't show you the true spirit of the art form, and really falls short in showing what it takes to be and what it means to be a Jazz musician.

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krrristyk
Mar 10, 2016

It's so ironic!

The negative reviews of this highly watchable and engrossing film come down to taking out of context the very metaphors purposely used by the writer to depict the nature of the teacher/student relationship.

In other words, it ain't no accident the teacher yells and hits and goads the most talented student(s) ("who's out of tune?") He's testing the limits; does this guy really want to be the best or is he willing to "settle" for being "Just good enough."

I would suggest in future, when you watch a film, and think "That was a waste of time" try reading reviews written by professional reviewers and critics. And have a listen to the writer/director commentary. You might be surprised at what you missed.

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Kerry705_SPL
Feb 22, 2016

WOW!!! J.K. Simmons' sweep of "Supporting Actor" awards was well deserved for this performance. Fantastic movie!!!

As a former school band member (clarinet, 5th grade through college) I NEVER experienced anything like this. However, I do believe there are people out there who do "sacrifice" themselves for their ambitions. Whether a good or bad thing, only they can judge.

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shlby69m
Feb 12, 2016

The ending is worth the hard to watch disipline of the student and teacher. I believe the tactics do weed out the goof offs and late comers. It's hard to teach these people. the student wants to be the best and he puts himself thru the works till he gets it. That's passion!

The theme of this movie is sadism versus ambition. Brutal barbaric cruelty is not entertainment, especially when the victims are deluded and believe the only way to fulfil their destiny is to accept the pain and humiliation. The whole premise of the movie is misguided, negative, and painful. There is no payoff enduring the sick dialogue and unnecessary pain to the end - even the end is a lame negative pathetic disappointment. To promote the lie that tolerating cruelty for ambition is positive and worthwhile is deluded. There is no humanity in this movie. Nobody wins. I don't understand why this movie was made. Sick, disturbed bully destroys talented people. I couldn't find one redeemable or believable moment watching this travesty. My only hope is that the movie inspires people being bullied (especially by a teacher or coach) to just walk away. Ambition that tolerates this kind of cruelty is inhuman. Walk away from abusers and walk away from this movie.

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uzebdrumz
Feb 07, 2016

I watched this film because I play the drums. This film is an offence to the psychology of behavioural motivation and drumming. This film desperately tries to create tension in every scene with girlfriends, teachers, parents, & other musicians. The disconnect between the audio & performances is expected, but it also demonstrates that the drummers can't really play; the blood, sweat & tears might be good drama, but they scream bad technique. The biggest bullshit story is that you need to use physical violence, loud voices, & negative motivation to inspire great playing. Great players practice and play because that's what they love to do & they enjoy doing it with other great players. If you think that your bass player will nail that riff better if you throw your sticks in their direction, then go ahead. The only lessons that can be learned from this film is that assault is the intentional application of force, directly or indirectly, to another person without that person's consent; assault does not make people play better. I'm reminded of a great jazz drummer who was accused of dragging & he said, "that's because my swung 8th's take longer than yours."

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alera Jun 24, 2015

I was there to push people beyond what's expected of them. I believe that's an absolute necessity.

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jimg2000
Apr 26, 2015

Fletcher: I don't think people understood what it was I was doing at Shaffer. I wasn't there to conduct. Any f-king moron can wave his arms and keep people in tempo. I was there to push people beyond what's expected of them. I believe that is... an absolute necessity. Otherwise, we're depriving the world of the next Louis Armstrong. The next Charlie Parker. I told you about how Charlie Parker became Charlie Parker, right? ... So imagine if Jones had just said: "Well, that's okay, Charlie. That was all right. Good job. "And then Charlie thinks to himself, "Well, s--t, I did do a pretty good job." End of story. No Bird. That, to me, is an absolute tragedy. But that's just what the world wants now. People wonder why jazz is dying.

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jimg2000
Apr 26, 2015

Dinner conversation (Andrew was the arrogant genius):

Uncle: You got any friends, Andy?
Andrew: No.
Uncle: Oh, why's that?
Andrew: I don't know, I just never really saw the use.
Uncle: Well, who are you going to play with otherwise? Lennon and McCartney, they were school buddies, am I right?
Andrew: Charlie Parker didn't know anybody 'til Jo Jones threw a cymbal at his head.
Uncle: So that's your idea of success, huh?
Andrew: I think being the greatest musician of the 20th century is anybody's idea of success.
Jim: Dying broke and drunk and full of heroin at the age of 34 is not exactly my idea of success.
Andrew: I'd rather die drunk, broke at 34 and have people at a dinner table talk about me than live to be rich and sober at 90 and nobody remembered who I was.
Uncle: Ah, but your friends will remember you, that's the point.
Andrew: None of us were friends with Charlie Parker. *That's* the point.

MrDrProfessorPatrick Apr 11, 2015

“There are no two words more harmful than 'good job.'"

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Jun 16, 2015

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AMerr22
Oct 17, 2017

Coarse Language: A lot. Not gonna lie, kinda funny sometimes.

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